Little Vandals
Created by MissCTotally Uncalled For:
A couple of days ago our pet escaped and was returned to us, however we were out and my Mother was looking after my family. An hour after the pet had been returned, two young boys turned up and asked her for a reward! She in turn asked them to come back tomorrow to ‘ask us’ in person.
They did return 
However my partner wasn’t prepared to give them a reward due to the nature of the way that they asked (and bringing 2 other boys with them as well).
Today I had just arrived home and suddenly one of the older boys that they had brought with them had thrown eggs at my house! I now have egg all down my door, driveway, path and inside the house! I was soooo angry that I went after them to ‘have a word’, which I did. The boy even denied he had done it… cheeky sod!
I rang The Police and also found some PCSO’s and gave them the info’, asking them to look for him as well. They also happened to warn some other children of what could happen (which is an £80.00 fine and they can clean up the mess they have made).
I am going to leave it for him! I have photo evidence of what they look like (and they are good images) and we also managed to get a first name from one child that we spoke to.
I am wondering if anything else will happen. I am quite prepared if it does! However I am hoping parents will warn their children of what can happen and I hope it is not any children of the parents who visit this site… because you may be getting a knock!
I am also wondering if we can start a page somewhere of what is happening so that we can be warned and know who / what to look out for?
I am not prepared to live here like this and am just waiting for something to happen. This is the 2nd thing this year now! Even the PCSO said they are having to patrol here every day now (I’m not surprised).
I am just fed up and wish I could do more really.
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Hi Miss C,
Sorry to hear about that
One of my neighbours had eggs thrown at her house not too long ago too
What do you have in mind?
The Local Crime & ASB category is filling up with details of incidents and issues, but I’m happy to consider anything else (so long as it’s legal)!
If you can tell me what it is you’d like, we can discuss it
If you have actual photo evidence, send me the pic’s
and I’ll publish them.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I will send the pic’s to you. I have a very good description of the offender and really can’t wait for him to be named and shamed. I also have egg on my walls which is damage there for will be pressing charges against this person as well.
Can I give a description on here maybe someone knows who he is as I say I only have a first name at present.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Can I ask, did you actually see them do it, or just assuming they did it (which is not unreasonable considering the circumstances)?
I only ask as if it was to go further, then that is the kind of thing that a case would “hinge” on. If you did actually see them, then push it as hard as you can!
I woudl be careful about the “naming and shaming” approach, I’d hate to see “good” people fall foul over such actions.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Provided that you (or somebody) actually saw him do it, I have no objection to your adding a name / description etc so long as you’re reasonably certain about the name and the description is fairly good… As Baz says, I’d be worried if I thought some innocent person might be mistaken for the culprit.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
As I said above:
” Today I had just arrived home and suddenly one of the older boys that they had brought with them had thrown eggs at my house! ”
Then:
” I was soooo angry that I went after them to ‘have a word’, which I did. The boy even denied he had done it… cheeky sod! ”
So Yes I did see him do it and I am glad that I saw him do it because I know it was him….
August 26th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Sorry - Sound a bit harsh. But I wouldn’t name someone unless I knew who it was and had seen them.. Which I had and am there for prepared to find this person and press charges etc. I would even go as far as to say knock on doors!!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Miss C, Just out of interest what kind of dog was it, because if is the one i saw the i know the kid who did this and also their address.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Miss C, my apologies, but i was just trying to ensure, for your sake, that you had all the elements that would be called into question, were it to come up at court.
There has been so many cases come in front of us which seem solid until the question is asked “so did you actually see x do the deed” to which a bit of a pause as the words of the oath sink in and then a “well not actually seen x but given what happened, who else could it have been”.
Its never pleasant, when we have “to be sure” to find someone guilty. Anyway, not relevent in your case and good luck
August 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Yorkshire terrier - Male…. It wasn’t the person who brought it back but the older boy who they brought back to our house the following day. I would be interested in talking to their parents tho as they may know who this person is and I can then alert police and bring on the charges!!! And for him to clean my wall as I am not going to do it… As house proud as I am, I want a bit of justice!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
lol, yes i know who it is don’t really want to put their details on her though as the family are well not the kind of people i would want to get on the wrong side of. I have seem them in action before and its not pretty. im happy to email this kids details to Clive if he could pass them on to you?
August 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
co374 it wasn’t them that did it but someone they know.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I’m also sick of little vandals. My partner took our little 2 year old to the park last week, (the little one) and was shouted to across the park, by these “children”, asking if he wanted a toke on there spliff (which they were smoking at the park)!
Then a couple of days ago, we were walking back from Tesco and a group of about 20 kids, with mopeds were all sat under the bridge. 2 PCSO’s were walking down the side path that comes out by the bridge, they looked at the kids and carried on walking. I was quite surprised at this, is this not a case where the should have been moved on?
On a final point, I would just like to say after just reading the posts on “Kingsway hits the headlines..again” that I am HA, 70% of my neighbours are also HA, and we get no trouble in our cul-de-sac, because if we did cause trouble we’d be booted out!
I work full time, and my partner is a stay at home dad.
Our house is spotless, our road, gardens and drives are spotless, so please keep your blanket assumptions of HA residents to yourself.
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:09 pm
The moped riders are coming through from Tuffley over the new bridge down by the Miller Homes site cabin; they use this as a rat run to Tesco’s.
Living on the junction with Miller Homes it would be great to get rid of them.
The anti-social problems are getting out of hand. A couple of weeks ago we could not leave our house as the Police had Thatcham Avenue blocked and a van stopped over my drive! They where there for over two hours until they arrested the guys inside.
The problems will get worse once that pod that Quedgeley did not want comes here, one night there were over 30 kids out at 2am in the morning, drunk and throwing stones and bricks.
I have given up on the parking! What is it with people? The new Miller Homes people are parking so you can’t see on the bend. It’s only a matter of time ’til I get a car in my front room. QUVL seems to have died since Andy (Hunter) left. The new chap doesn’t answer e-mails or return calls to his office and the local number for the site office is dead.
I see on here that parking will be enforced where the yellow lines are still present, well what a waste of money that was, the road sweeper has brushed them off.
Sorry to blast off but no one cares what happens over here. The Developers have our money and are not bothered! Nothing will get finished for years (if at all)
September 4th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Lis said:
Moved on to where?
If they were not doing anything wrong except being in a group, then what’s the problem?
And ref’ Thatchams comment about the Youth Pod: We (Clive in Particular) have pushed really hard for the Youth Pod to come onto Kingsway to give the youths somewhere to go. Without things like this then they are left uncatered for with little to do. We can all trot out the arguments that “in my day I amused myself by…” but I would bet that everyone here weren’t Angels all of the time and hung around with their friends doing whatever!
However, Thatchams comment about the lack of interaction from QUVL is a major concern as I am of the same belief that we are now being ignored. Ever since Andy Hunter left, things have got much worse. Andy was more than happy to interact with us and discuss issues, but the new chap will not return calls or anything.
September 4th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Hi Neighbours,
The Youth Pod was never intended for Quedgeley. (Where did you get the idea that they don’t want it)?
Longlevens want it, but it was designated for Kingsway, so they will have to wait until we no longer need it (about 2050 at the rate the Developers are going)!
And how - when you see the number of complaints about youths hanging around the park, the underpass, the streets etc - can you argue that we don’t need it, or that it will make things worse?
I recall this post: The Youth Miss Out Again written by "A Youth" in April.
It’s about the fact that the pod placeement was (again) delayed by the QUVL.
I remember thinking how sad it is that any number of kids have already lived here for 3 years with nothing to do (without travelling to Quedgeley) and knowing that they would have (probably) another 6-12 months to wait.
A: 3-4 years feels like forever to a teenager.
B: If you moved here (as a teenager) from outside of the area and heard the stories (exaggerated in true “teen-style”) of youths and gang culture in Quedgeley, you’d most likely be more than a little loath to venture out in that direction at night.
Kids out ’til 2am (in the holidays), drinking and throwing stones?
If we don’t give them something to do, what else can we expect?
Antisocial problems are getting out of hand everywhere! I’m not trying to play down the local problems (although I really struggle to see any advantage to doing otherwise) but I’d love to take a few of you folks to live in my last house/area!
Parking? Now you’re talking! There’s an issue that will plague us all for a long time to come (until the QUVL has gone - permanently - and the Council takes over, paints some proper double-yellow lines and makes some sensible provision for local and visitor parking)… It’s gonna need to be supervised too, ‘cos - when it comes to parking - some folks seem to switch off their brains just before their engines!
I’m glad to see that Baz finally did manage to contact Alistair Jewell.
Maybe the theat of a village-wide poster campaign designed to scare away potential buyers with messages like “Can’t Park - Don’t Buy” will get them to look at this ridiculous situation and stop taking unfair advantage of their recent customers!
Before you all chime in with remarks like “you shouldn’t move here if you own two cars” etc… Explain to me how cars parking in an area where the double-yellow lines were blacked out (by the QUVL) to allow parking can now house cars clamped by the enforcement company and how multiple promises (by the QUVL) to refund money scammed by that same enforcement company can subsequently be broken with comments (by the QUVL) like “they’re a law unto themselves”!
Yep… The parking issue really makes my blood boil
September 9th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Sorry but I have no sympathy with people who have been clamped!
Yellow lines or not cars should not be parked all over the place with no thought to other road users be they car or pedestrian.
Lots of people are parking just so they have a few less steps to their front door! Talking about blood boiling it really annoys me to see cars/vans parked on the footpaths forcing pedestrians to walk into the road.
That feels better!
September 9th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Hi Gillian,
I too get (very) frustrated by irresponsible parking, but clamping people who park responsibly in areas where double yellow lines were removed to allow parking (because those areas are safe) is not fair and those people affected deserve sympathy.
If the QUVL agree to allow parking in some spots it’s hardly right for the enforcement company to clamp cars that use them… If we go that route we are just encouraging people to park anywhere they like.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:53 am
I agree with Gillian, if you get clamped, tough! If you don’t have enough parking spaces available to you, tough! You bought your house knowing full well what parking you would have available. Also those double yellow lines should never have been removed. It is not safe at any point on Thatcham Avenue to have a car parked on the road, it’s a pain and should not be there. Also Van’s should not be parked anywhere on kingway, check your deeds! NO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES!
Although on a second note, the yellow lines have also worn out in places, so by law they shouldn’t really be clamping or fining people until this has been resolved.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
G Note:
Is that true about the commercial vehicles for all areas of the estate (village)? It was brought up before but there was some uncertainty about this.
There are private builders vans / tippers all over the place where we are. They too are parking irresponsibly!!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
It is no wonder that we are a laughing stock of Gloucester with such neighbourly attitudes!
Irresponsible parking is wrong, but the development has insuficient and inadequate parking allowance. Builders lied about what parking would be avaliable (certainly in my case). I also agree that the builders parking is out of order and needs to be better enforced.
But we should not be fighting amongst ourselves when it is a much bigger problem and not of our making. No matter who bought the houses, generally families consist of two cars and this has not been factored in to the planning and we are suffering as a result!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Oh and personally I like some parking on thatcham as it slows some of the idiots in the big cars and 4*4s who seem to insist on speeding down there. I have more of a problem with “grown adults” speeding down there than I do with our problem mopeds.
Its this speeding thats going to kill someone, and the people parking is a good speed control measure!
September 10th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
G Note, Gillian,
I am in total agreement with you.
When I bought my house I knew where and how many parking spaces I would have including my garage. If you have 4 cars then buy a house with accomodation for that many vehicles.
While I do also agree with Baz that some parking in safe areas is OK, these need to be clearly marked out so everyone knows where the zones are which in turn removes any misinterpretation by either the vehicle owners and the clamping company.
As for people needing 2 cars… not the case. My wife and I car share to work although we work 40 miles apart. If this cannot be accomodated we use public transport which works very well between our estate, the bus depot and the train station. I log 120 miles per day on my car commuting so if we can manage then so can many others. Some people have 4 cars when they only work a 10 minute walk from the estate which they park in the most dangerous and anti social manner (As my previous mails have attested to). Should I have sympathy for people like this? I’m afraid not.
I refuse to believe that people enter into one of the most expensive legal and social contracts they will ever undertake without first thinking through the practilicalities. I believe they do and then think ‘ah sod it’, we’ll just park where we like and to hell with everyone else. (For those in social housing who who took them because it was in improvement for them, you do have my sympathy’s as you have to take what was given.)
And yes Lja, G Note is absolutley correct, it clearly states in your covenant that no parking of commercial vehicles or caravans anywhere in the estate. These can be towed and clamped without any yellow lines being in the area. It also states tha any parking in communal driveways/access areas and the bricked road areas are subject to the same clamping regulations despite there being no yellow lines. Personally, I would ring the clamping company and report them. And Clive, the communtiy is NOT dimished by law abiding people who only want a quiet, respected quality of life!!!! It is diminished by those who do not respect the rights of others by behaving anti socially.
A very annoyed and unapologetic DJE
September 10th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
DJE, well said! (Glad i’m not the only one who speaks their mind!)
September 10th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Parking!
I have to add to your post DJE.
I have got home from work everynight this week and previous weeks unable to park my car outside my house, and unable to get my car in the garage due to inconsiderate parking. This isnt by people who have invested everything they have in a nice house but by people who rent! Why rent a house with a garage and a parking space when you dont use the garage, you park a clapped out untaxed car in the space and then park your two cars you travel to work in outside my house????
As for commercial vehicles thats an interesting oned too!
I’ve said before on here were preaching to the converted.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
DJE,
(I am NOT trying to be argumentative or patronising)… It sounds as though you are making a real effort and for that you have my admiration… I’m glad that you are able to get by with one car… But still, you must be aware that you are the exception to the rule and - whilst it’s probably true that a lot more folks could try harder (as you obviously do), it’s also true that not everybody can get by with one car.
This comment has me mystified:
Where did you get the idea that I think anything else?
And one thing I am slightly disappointed about: Prefacing an earlier question, I specifically asked "Before you all chime in with remarks like “you shouldn’t move here if you own two cars” etc…"…
I asked this because we have already had the (always emotive) discussion about the number of parking spaces per family elsewhere, and I did not want it re-opened here.
The purpose of my comment was to discuss the fact that injustices have been done and I wanted to address that issue without getting back to the “2 car family” matter.
The fact that you re-opened the discussion doesn’t disappoint me as much as the fact that you assume you are taking an opposing view.
Also you end with "A very annoyed and unapologetic DJE"… read on for my thoughts on this:
Neighbours,
A quick glance at the posts in this thread seems to reveal an argument between us, but a closer look reveals that most of us are - in fact - in total agreement with each-other!
It looks to me like comments are being taken (slightly) out of context in order to allow us to "create" an argument from nowhere, and thus to vent our anger and frustration over a problem which is plaguing us all.
To get this (back) into context please read this (carefully), (it’s a potted history, which you can check):
Clive Said: "Explain to me how cars parking in an area where the double-yellow lines were blacked out (by the QUVL) to allow parking, can now house cars clamped by the enforcement company?"
Gillian Said: "Sorry but I have no sympathy with people who have been clamped!"
Clive Said: "I too get (very) frustrated by irresponsible parking, but clamping people who park responsibly in areas where double yellow lines were removed to allow parking (because those areas are safe) is not fair and those people affected deserve sympathy."
Baz_k Said: "Oh and personally I like some parking on thatcham as it slows some of the idiots in the big cars and 4x4s who seem to insist on speeding down there."
G Note Said: "I agree with Gillian, if you get clamped, tough!"…
BUT… G Note (also) Said: "Although on a second note, the yellow lines have also worn out in places, so by law they shouldn’t really be clamping or fining people until this has been resolved."
DJE Said: "G Note, Gillian, I am in total agreement with you."…
BUT… DJE (also) Said: "While I do also agree with Baz that some parking in safe areas is OK, these need to be clearly marked out so everyone knows where the zones are which in turn removes any misinterpretation by either the vehicle owners and the clamping company."…
All of which takes us back to my initial comment on the subject!
So in fact, we are all in agreement on the 2 main points:
1. Irresponsible parking sucks and we are all fed-up with those who practice it.
2. Cars parked in (designated) safe parking areas should not be clamped.
My main concern is that double-yellow lines are not clearly visible and areas that are designated as “ok to park in” should (obviously) not be subjected to clamping; but they have been, thus they deserve - and have - my sympathy.
You don’t need to offer yours, but actually saying “I have no sympathy…” (in every other post), and seemingly arguing - when in fact we aren’t… well - as Baz said:
September 10th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
DJE, Firstly, thank you for popping round the other night, and my apologies for being “baby bound”
My comment about 2 cars was based around the generalisation that in this day and age most families have 2 cars. Personally we also only own one car. However I do cheat and have company Hire cars too!
In theory I have no gripe with how much parking I personally have, I have sufficient for my needs, until someone comes to visit, then I’m stuffed as is pretty much anyone else.
Also I am trying to use the issue as good ammunition to reason that getting my motorbike licence is a good idea
but we will see…
Anyway, while there are a lot of different opinions on blame/enforcement, Clive is right that generally we do agree on the principles, but rather than arguing amongst ourselves, there needs to be a decent strategy to not only cope with the current situation, but how it will develop as the Village grows and matures.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Baz
“Moved on to where?
If they were not doing anything wrong except being in a group, then what’s the problem?”
The problem is having to walk between a group of swearing, spitting teenagers mouthing off and being generally intimidating is the problem!!
They’re not even local children, and as for having an unmanned pod for 24 hours in the school site, what a joke!
September 13th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Thatcham Avenue has allways been a problem, like most rounds on the estate. Whats going to happen when the bus starts coming down here and through to Tuffley! one comment I got form QVLC was let it hit a few cars and that should sort it! not to productive a comment I think. As this is a private estate still any crashes form bad parking could cause insurance problems.
From my point it seems only a matter of time before one of those speeding idiots ends up in my living room. This week end has seen several near misses with cars mounting the pavements to avoid each other. I have been asked to photograph the offenders but this will not help neigbour relations!
Most of the bad parking is now from Bryant homes downwards.QVLC did given in and let some parking on the bottom end and that seem OK most days but again its the odd person who thinks its fine to park on a roundabout, pavement and across the pavement! yes you know who you are!
I am sure putting the double yellow lines back that have come off and a few weeks of enforcement will sort it out.